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The only living memory I have...

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 � have been in the garden,
outside Alexandra Palace...

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at dawn...

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I think my senses probably
they were a little high...

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But I remember seeing that crowd
leaving the hall and thinking...

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That's it. We won. He finished.
We are in charge now. This is huge.

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Of course it was a fantasy,
but that was the feeling.

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It was a general feeling,
really big.

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It was all a kind of madness
voluntary... and experimental!

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I remember it was incredible to be young,
stylish and play music.

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Somehow it was
like a 14 hour orgasm.

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It was a second meeting after the
poetry at the Albert Hall in 1965.

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Technicolor Dream lasted 14 hours.
It was, without a doubt, a culmination...

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I would say it was the biggest event
underground that was generated.

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That was all. He had two years to live
before it became too commercial.

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In Victorian times there was a great
Exhibition in the great Crystal Palace.

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It was something similar.

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The Technicolor Dream was legendary,
For some it was the highlight of the 60s.

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And in particular for the underground
of that decade.

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The main performance that night
was the band considered most important,

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Pink Floyd,

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Led by an atypical talent called
Syd Barrett.

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In those days Syd glided through the
guitar strings your Zippo.

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I imagine a lot of people felt
impacted by seeing us in this scenario.

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Behind us some things were projected,
but I have no clear memory.

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There was a kind of fair of attractions
there. Lots of disorder,

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which certainly gave a feeling
Fantastic for the occasion.

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For me it will always be something colorful because
we were going through fragmentation,

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Then I have a vision
very uncertain about that.

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It was the end of the underground as a
a kind of bold and valiant effort.

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It was clearly the beginning of
a huge trading company.

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Later, Floyd began
to fall apart.

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I don't think it happened that night,
but it was the symbol of what was to come,

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Syd consuming acid...

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and everything becoming chaotic.

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The other people
who didn't take acid,

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the other band members
They wondered what the hell was going on.

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Pink Floyd in Technicolor Dream
It was one of the best moments of 1967.

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But from this event formed the
most iconic hits of the decade.

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The CND marches in
early 60s,

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Reading poetry
at the Albert Hall in 1965,

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the 'Free School' of London,

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Club UFO

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and the International Times.

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These were the reference points
of the underground movement

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And an influential figure in all these
points of reference was John Hopkins,

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better known as "Hoppy".

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I believe the word underground was
Truly an American import.

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For example, John Wilcock, who started
the 'Voice of the People'

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used the word Underground in the beginning
from the 60s,

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and was one of the people who
inspired our own culture,

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which we also call Underground.

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My connection with the underground began
when...

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I arrived in London in 1964 as a
on tour together with Muddy Waters.

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Melody Maker...

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sent a photographer to take...
photos.

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His name was John Hopkins.

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The underground in London was
made up of a few hundred people,

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but in the center there was,
I don't know, a dozen activists.

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Many of them were
in the Hoppy department.

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Many of the people who lived there
they did all kinds of things,

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to avoid Francis
when England changed.

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We used to stay there,
I think he still lives there.

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He was one of those people
that everyone liked and respected.

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Without Hoppy there would never be
the underground existed.

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He was full of ideas and initiatives.
If you set out to do something

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And the next afternoon
I was already doing it.

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I think it made a big difference
in a very fleeting period.

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He became the focus and introduced
other people into activism.

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All the people in the scene
they were very united,

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and Hoppy had a list of
priorities and things to do,

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If you were to publish it in a magazine,
it was necessary to find the most economical way,

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Take care of printing and transportation.
The next day he would have done it,

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because no one else could have done it,

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Just Hoppy.

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As the 60s progressed,

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We saw that there were more and more people who
seemed to be looking for the same thing.

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It was like a psychedelic equivalent
of a massive movement.

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There were other massive movements, such as
the CND, Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament,

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In which every Easter,
organized marches to Aldermaston,

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Where weapons were created to
o Trafalgar Square.

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In 1962,

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12 thousand CND activists came forward
in Trafalgar Square.

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At the 1963 Hyde Park protest
the numbers had passed 30 thousand,

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and 90% of CND members...

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were under 21.

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It was the beginning of dissatisfaction,
I think, with the state,

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There was awareness that the police
Britain wasn't so wonderful,

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and that we had not
the best press in the world,

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And many other myths that
they had taught us.

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It didn't work.

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I mean that at the end of the 50s
and early 60s,

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The CND marches were massive
and it didn't make any difference.

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I think it was one of those things that
pushed everything with individual politics.

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We needed to change the world,

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And the movement of young people who passed
by CND he was interested in other things.

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The CND that began in the 50s,
and for which I have always felt sympathy...

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For the simple reason that
who wanted to continue with life,

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Took all kinds of things,
old anarchists, old intellectuals...

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And the young people realized
that there was a threat to his pleasant life.

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It was all a bit harsh
after the war,

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But it got better and began to
to a lot of beautiful things.

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It was probably the best standard of living
in the mid-60s.

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They were good times.

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It was actually the first time that the
youth had a little money.

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Not enough to buy a house
or a car, but for records, books and clothes.

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And also to buy drugs and go out
to listen to music in night clubs.

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My generation had the luxury of power
spend time away from your parents,

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a place to rebel.

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But when there started to be money
and things became more prosperous,

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Young people began to have the
opportunity to do what they want.

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In the 40s and 50s, youth
I tried to be an adult.

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Since the 1960s, adults
they try to see themselves as young.

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That was very important,
began to define a lifestyle.

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There also began to be a great
dissatisfaction with...

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the direction things were going.

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The British lifestyle in mid
from the 60s it was...

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Businessmen were walking with
top hats and umbrellas.

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London in the post-war era
an ugly, dirty and dark place,

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and going to coffee shops was the most
high on the scale of social achievement.

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We knew it could be better.
Life could be more exciting.

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What was incredible was that
for the first time in history,

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There was a generation of young people...

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Fighting and saying:

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"We don't want wars and bad food."

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And "We don't want all that crap."

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There was a feeling of unification,
of people gathering,

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The people of this generation
They demanded improvements...

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"Why do we have to follow these rules?"
And the bands were like ��glue��.

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Bands like Soft Machine and Pink Floyd...

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they were like the soundtrack. They gave
the rhythm... and the energy.

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But soon the people who wanted to be
creative people started thinking:

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"Let's take a chance."

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And yes, we really thought we were
change the world, we thought...

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with all this energy, power and
evolution of what was happening,

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let's finish
in a different place.

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I'm going to be a musician, I'm going to be
writer, I'm going to be a poet.

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The 60s broke with
Victorian heritage.

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Fuck Victoria.

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One of the greatest inspirations of
underground movement in the 60s...

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was the generation
American Beat.

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Just as the epicenter of
beat literature in London...

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era Better Books
on Charring Cross Street.

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In early 1965 I took care
of Bill Butler who had moved to Brighton,

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and I became the store manager.

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My interest was a little
different than Bill's.

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I was still interested in poetry,
one of Better Books' strengths.

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I was interested in what
happened in the United States,

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particularly
with the Beat generation.

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It was just something great
for young English people...

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or young girls.

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Basically made us review
our lifestyle...

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and our teaching.

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We asked ourselves
the why of things,

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And no one was ever there
done this in England.

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That's why...

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it was surprising for
we all this subject.

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In fact, much of this was
managed by Miles,

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because he was the one in charge of
import beat literature.

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Burroughs, Ginsberg, Kerouac,
Ferlinghetti... that class of authors.

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Long before
someone knew them.

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My particular interest
It was Beat, so...

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in July or June when Allen
Ginsberg came to London,

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I immediately put it as
a featured read.

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We didn't even have to
to put up a sign.

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The place was full
and it was not possible to enter.

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Soon Allen Ginsberg commented that...

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Lawrence Ferlinghetti was
in Paris on the way to England.

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It also happened that...

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Gregory Corso was in Italy
on the way to England,

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and so we had a lot of
Beat Generation that summer.

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One day we were saying that
all the beats would be in London,

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And Allen had a kind of
bride named Barbara Rubin...

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Who asked what it was
the biggest place in London,

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And my wife replied that it was
the Albert Hall.

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Barbara literally went
at reception,

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picked up the phone and booked
the Albert Hall in 10 days.

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As soon as it was booked, the
doubt about how to sell 7 thousand seats.

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Here is where Hoppy appears organizing
the press and photo shoots,

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And setting up tricks in different newspapers
to attract attention,

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so that not only would all the places be sold,
but so that there were also people outside.

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I was very skeptical that something
so it could fill the Albert Hall,

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but it wasn't just crowded. When we arrived,
It was only possible to get squeezed...

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in the gallery.

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The adventurous spirit, the spirit
of the discovery that...

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grew up in London in those days,

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Found an expression
at the Albert Hall.

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The fact that the Albert Hall became
completely packed,

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It was of great support to
the counter-culture of that time,

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because we could see that
we were not alone.

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Yes, it was very tiring...
reach so many people.

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It was certainly a
milestone in my career.

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And it became something poetic...

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In fact, the reading itself
It wasn't a big deal.

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There were 17 poets, many of them
quite mediocre.

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But the important thing was that at the Albert Hall
there was a party,

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People carried food, bottles
of wine and smoked marijuana.

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It was an extraordinary event.
It really was a success.

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It was like an orgy of poetry
or something like that.

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And then Ernst Jandl appeared

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with a sound poem based on the opening
from a gospel in German about San Juan:

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Im Anfang war das Wort.

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He began to recite it and was transformed
in a deafening set of noises.

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Simply incredible.

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The poet Harry Fainlight,

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who looked like he had taken amphetamine,

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I tried to read a profound poem
about the experience with LSD.

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I remember Harry Fainlight very well,

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Because he had a lot
I want to read your poem,

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and Allen Ginsberg said:
"I wish to read your poem."

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But he had taken a lot
amphetamine, and your mouth was...

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...all the time.
It was very irritating because of that.

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Fresh deserts,

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resurrected from matter, concrete
at the edge of the track.

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For me, this stands out from the rest
because we have this crazy,

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standing in front of thousands of people,

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somehow revealing
and exposing

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And saying all these crazy things
that were going through his head.

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I was very
scared by this.

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I was surprised that people
they wanted to shut him up.

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Simon Vinkenoog actually
he was Dutch.

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He was a Dutch poet, and he was very
popular on the Beat poet scene.

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He was there and there was
done a reading beforehand,

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and had taken mescaline.

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He was opening his heart and his
reading was very well received.

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When Harry was reciting,

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Simon suddenly exploded
With the "love, love, love".

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It didn't actually help Harry,
strangely I thought it would help.

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I was saying love. All this
What we were organizing was love.

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Alexander Trocki had to take him off the stage
because he was booed.

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For some reason the public
stood up to Harry.

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And in the end he just fell
in the arms of Allen Ginsberg.

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It was very sad, and I don't think Harry
managed to recover from such rejection.

234
00:20:57,356 --> 00:21:01,383
There was a large amount of alcohol
in the environment of poets.

235
00:21:03,362 --> 00:21:08,390
And there were a lot of bars there,
and the poets drank a lot.

236
00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:12,393
Ginsberg drank a lot and
made a terrible reading.

237
00:21:22,381 --> 00:21:25,407
In fact, I know Allen was
very sorry,

238
00:21:26,251 --> 00:21:28,378
He felt like he had lost
a great opportunity

239
00:21:29,388 --> 00:21:31,356
and that I could have done better,

240
00:21:32,424 --> 00:21:37,361
It was quite different from others
British poets,

241
00:21:38,263 --> 00:21:41,426
like Adrian Mitchell,
which had a great success.

242
00:22:04,423 --> 00:22:09,360
The reading at the Albert Hall was the
catalyst for the underground scene.

243
00:22:09,428 --> 00:22:12,397
It was really the first time
that the community found itself united,

244
00:22:13,432 --> 00:22:18,369
And they recognized each other
with others as what they were.

245
00:22:23,408 --> 00:22:32,373
We thought all this energy was so
It's fantastic that we wanted to use it.

246
00:22:33,385 --> 00:22:38,345
One of the channels for energy
which emerged in the fall of 1965,

247
00:22:38,423 --> 00:22:40,391
after the reading at the Albert Hall,

248
00:22:40,459 --> 00:22:43,326
it was the London Free School
in Notting Hill.

249
00:22:44,396 --> 00:22:46,227
The London Free School was an idea.

250
00:22:46,398 --> 00:22:49,231
It was inhabited by
a variety of people,

251
00:22:49,401 --> 00:22:55,397
of Michael X for a part, until
Pete Jenner and Andrew King on the other.

252
00:22:55,474 --> 00:23:00,434
The London Free School was to change the
society, change the world.

253
00:23:01,246 --> 00:23:07,378
If there was an ideology behind it, it was
what I would call information policies.

254
00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:14,417
There were a lot of people giving
turns with different talents,

255
00:23:14,493 --> 00:23:19,430
And there were also many people,
in the Notting Hill neighborhood,

256
00:23:20,432 --> 00:23:26,428
That if they had these talents,
would be able to live better.

257
00:23:27,439 --> 00:23:28,406
It was a simple proposal.

258
00:23:29,441 --> 00:23:37,371
They had properties in Notting Hill, which
Michael X used it as an illegal casino.

259
00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:41,385
And since he no longer wore it,
ended up becoming a barracks.

260
00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:49,360
It was an expression of some people
who knew luck and privilege

261
00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:51,395
to be able to help the community.

262
00:23:52,464 --> 00:24:07,403
It was an attempt by the middle class
to help the working class.

263
00:24:08,413 --> 00:24:11,382
I used to think it was
the London School of Freedom.

264
00:24:11,483 --> 00:24:19,413
They taught classes on existentialism and everything
kind of strange philosophies, and UFOs.

265
00:24:20,258 --> 00:24:21,384
From there everything took off.

266
00:24:21,493 --> 00:24:25,429
I think one of the things
what happened was that

267
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:30,458
The local people who dealt with
the government for things like

268
00:24:31,403 --> 00:24:35,362
benefits and rights of all kinds,

269
00:24:36,408 --> 00:24:40,401
Encouraged them to fight for their rights
and showed them how to do it,

270
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:41,446
how to fight them in the City Council.

271
00:24:43,415 --> 00:24:50,378
On Friday nights we go there
asking for flowers from people's gardens.

272
00:24:51,423 --> 00:24:55,416
We put together bouquets and left
in the water all night.

273
00:24:55,494 --> 00:25:01,399
The next day I bought Indian flutes
and, around 10 to 3 in the afternoon,

274
00:25:02,234 --> 00:25:04,429
When the procession was about to begin,

275
00:25:05,437 --> 00:25:11,398
It brought together about ten children
so they could play the flutes in the parade.

276
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:17,449
Until the procession began at 3,
with musicians marching down Portobello Road.

277
00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:26,414
And at 3 o'clock sharp, a girl appeared
distributing the flowers and streamers.

278
00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:29,450
And during the procession, people
they played the streamers. It was beautiful!

279
00:25:30,462 --> 00:25:32,225
And that lasted all summer.

280
00:25:34,432 --> 00:25:43,431
This idea of the procession may have
influenced others on an even greater scale.

281
00:25:44,509 --> 00:25:51,210
Free School processions are
connected with Notting Hill Carnival.

282
00:25:51,283 --> 00:25:52,250
One thing led to another...

283
00:25:53,485 --> 00:25:56,454
The London Free School was basically...

284
00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:59,457
it was like an idea that seemed to capture
many people's imagination.

285
00:26:00,458 --> 00:26:06,454
It was the modern version of carnival,
Then Notting Hill Carnival arrived.

286
00:26:07,499 --> 00:26:10,468
The main event that arose
from the London Free School was when

287
00:26:11,469 --> 00:26:15,462
They decided to revive the Notting Hill fair
after more than a hundred years.

288
00:26:17,509 --> 00:26:21,411
This was a way to unite the
community in Notting Hill,

289
00:26:21,479 --> 00:26:29,477
Trying to overcome racial prejudice,
after race riots in Notting Hill.

290
00:26:31,456 --> 00:26:35,449
So the idea started at a festival,

291
00:26:35,527 --> 00:26:42,490
which grew and today is the festival
of Notting Hill, the largest in Europe.

292
00:26:43,535 --> 00:26:51,442
I don't believe what we talk about today
the London underground in 1966 and 1967,

293
00:26:51,509 --> 00:26:54,478
would have been possible without
the London Free School.

294
00:26:54,512 --> 00:26:56,480
The International Times
started there,

295
00:26:56,548 --> 00:27:01,349
What was obvious... began
like a mimeographed bulletin

296
00:27:01,453 --> 00:27:04,422
London Free School news section.

297
00:27:04,522 --> 00:27:11,451
Despite not having trained the
local people to be

298
00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:13,488
filmmakers, or whatever...

299
00:27:15,533 --> 00:27:18,502
It had many other effects,
which were concrete and very real.

300
00:27:19,504 --> 00:27:24,498
We started the UFO. The UFO opened to
raise funds for the London Free School,

301
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:30,505
and from this whole idea came the
idea of underground music.

302
00:27:30,515 --> 00:27:35,475
For some reason my name appeared on the
headed like his secretary...

303
00:27:36,287 --> 00:27:37,481
and it was me who should
pay the bills.

304
00:27:38,289 --> 00:27:40,314
Quickly
I ran out of money.

305
00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:45,486
As the son of a swindler, I knew that
The way to make money was to do social.

306
00:27:46,531 --> 00:27:51,491
We had at the beginning of the UFO
The All Saints Hall on Paris Square,

307
00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:57,498
was a social good to raise funds for
the parish of the London Free School.

308
00:27:58,510 --> 00:28:02,241
He was a kind of Vicar of Dibley
in the 60s, but with a lot of drugs.

309
00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:09,476
And the band they chose for the collection
from Free School was Pink Floyd.

310
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:15,482
Pete Jenner, eventual manager, had
seen Floyd in early 1966,

311
00:28:16,261 --> 00:28:18,491
in a spontaneous underground act in
The Marquee.

312
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:22,500
When I got there there were lights
going around.

313
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:31,442
Not as many as nowadays, but it seemed like a lot
and I think there were girls twirling around in the Jell-O.

314
00:28:32,243 --> 00:28:34,507
And then the band was playing.

315
00:28:35,246 --> 00:28:37,441
I couldn't realize
of who was playing what.

316
00:28:37,515 --> 00:28:42,214
I remember walking around the room,
trying to know where the sound is coming from.

317
00:28:48,259 --> 00:28:55,495
And the sound that caught my attention
it was Syd and Rick playing with...

318
00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:57,501
...improvising songs,

319
00:28:58,269 --> 00:29:01,466
with large amounts of reverb,
many echo repetitions,

320
00:29:02,273 --> 00:29:07,233
lots of sharp notes,
seemed to get a lot of feedback.

321
00:29:08,246 --> 00:29:10,214
All this sounded to me
quite avant-garde.

322
00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:24,491
The first time I heard Floyd was
at the beginning of 1966 at the Marque� Club

323
00:29:24,529 --> 00:29:25,496
on a Sunday afternoon.

324
00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:31,492
A man named Steve Stoleman put together this
event calling it the Spontaneous Underground.

325
00:29:32,237 --> 00:29:35,206
I remember going in
walking for the first time

326
00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:41,508
and see these colorful lights flashing.
It wasn't a light show, but something previous.

327
00:29:42,247 --> 00:29:46,479
There was this song that seemed
a wall of sound.

328
00:29:47,252 --> 00:29:50,517
There were musicians improvising there,
they improvised on top of a song.

329
00:29:51,256 --> 00:29:54,487
The music gradually appeared,
I think it was Interstellar Overdrive

330
00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:57,228
or one of those japs
improvised.

331
00:30:19,517 --> 00:30:24,216
At the first London Free School event
There weren't many people in the church hall.

332
00:30:24,255 --> 00:30:27,247
In fact there were very few, about 17 or something
like that.

333
00:30:28,293 --> 00:30:36,223
Soon Pink Floyd answered questions and everything was
Very seriously, music and lights seemed to blend together.

334
00:30:36,534 --> 00:30:44,270
Then someone else came with
them, people from the surroundings.

335
00:30:45,543 --> 00:30:50,503
They had a projector with them and they put on a show
of lights, something else we had never seen before.

336
00:30:51,282 --> 00:30:54,479
The explosion happened while the show
of lights was projected onto the band,

337
00:30:55,253 --> 00:30:58,245
this was one more thing than ever
we had seen or heard.

338
00:30:58,356 --> 00:31:00,221
And soon this situation started to get worse.
more popular as,

339
00:31:00,291 --> 00:31:04,455
after a few weeks there was
competition and frequent queues...

340
00:31:05,263 --> 00:31:08,232
Pink Floyd became known as the band
main part of the underground scene,

341
00:31:08,266 --> 00:31:10,234
And its vocalist and leader,
the brilliant Syd Barrett,

342
00:31:11,336 --> 00:31:22,213
was an artist who became synonymous with both
of creativity and excess of the 60s.

343
00:31:30,521 --> 00:31:35,424
Pink Floyd's management is divided
in two parts. Two great connections.

344
00:31:36,261 --> 00:31:38,252
The first was the connection in Cambridge,

345
00:31:38,329 --> 00:31:42,265
which involved Roger,
David Gilmour and Syd Barrett.

346
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:46,236
Syd lived near my house.
Our mothers knew each other,

347
00:31:47,272 --> 00:31:54,235
Maybe we went to the same school, but
we don't know each other because

348
00:31:54,312 --> 00:31:57,247
I'm two years older than him.

349
00:31:58,283 --> 00:32:04,222
We used to go on Saturday mornings to
a place on Hills Road in Cambridge.

350
00:32:04,322 --> 00:32:10,261
But I don't remember our friendship
until we were 13 or 14 years old.

351
00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:16,233
And we started pretending to read
Ferlinghetti and Jack Kerouac.

352
00:32:16,301 --> 00:32:21,238
We also pretended to know someone
who wanted to join us.

353
00:32:21,339 --> 00:32:24,274
Why does it have to sound so
loud, so amplified?

354
00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:28,234
I don't think it has to sound like that,
but it's the way we like it to be.

355
00:32:28,313 --> 00:32:35,219
We played two shows at the
pop music, which is what I think we are,

356
00:32:37,355 --> 00:32:42,292
Playing in halls and clubs and that kind of
place since that's how it works.

357
00:32:43,261 --> 00:32:50,224
I had the fantasy of being rich, having women
and cars, and things like that.

358
00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:56,297
And despite having achieved almost everything,
I never let him go... my dream.

359
00:32:57,308 --> 00:33:01,244
Everyone listens to her. It is not necessary for you to be
too loud for us to hear.

360
00:33:01,346 --> 00:33:03,246
Much of it actually
It's very peaceful.

361
00:33:03,348 --> 00:33:06,249
Personally, I like music so much
soft as high.

362
00:33:06,284 --> 00:33:09,276
My mother still has photos of me
with Syd,

363
00:33:09,387 --> 00:33:16,293
sitting in front of the house
fantasizing about life.

364
00:33:17,328 --> 00:33:22,231
The extraordinary about fantasies
that eventually become reality.

365
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,268
Well, that's it,

366
00:33:24,335 --> 00:33:27,304
I think you should dictate your verdict
just like me.

367
00:33:27,338 --> 00:33:31,297
My verdict is that there is a little
throwback to childhood...

368
00:33:31,376 --> 00:33:32,274
But after all,
why not?

369
00:33:33,277 --> 00:33:37,304
Syd was a little younger than us,
but he attended the same school,

370
00:33:37,382 --> 00:33:42,251
and went to the same places.

371
00:33:42,353 --> 00:33:47,222
He was one of those lonely people,
creative and inspired.

372
00:33:47,291 --> 00:33:53,252
And possess this strange quality,

373
00:33:54,298 --> 00:33:58,257
A strange aura
who didn't really know where he came from.

374
00:34:01,305 --> 00:34:05,298
There was something charming about him, and he
had a special way of walking,

375
00:34:05,343 --> 00:34:07,311
He always walked on his toes.

376
00:34:08,312 --> 00:34:11,338
Everyone does exactly the same
painting about Syd.

377
00:34:12,250 --> 00:34:15,219
It had a kind of bounce
extraordinary in your steps,

378
00:34:15,319 --> 00:34:23,283
and his way of walking reflected his
way of living. A constant... bounce.

379
00:34:24,362 --> 00:34:26,296
It was very similar to Tigger
(Walt Disney character),

380
00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:35,272
Obviously he was much brighter than
Tigger, but it still had that bounce.

381
00:34:38,309 --> 00:34:39,333
He brought this...

382
00:34:40,378 --> 00:34:48,342
the avant-garde, not just its compositions
but also your attitude in general...

383
00:34:49,387 --> 00:34:52,288
to pop groups and our
in private too.

384
00:34:53,324 --> 00:34:58,318
He was the kind of person
who knew who Love was.

385
00:34:59,363 --> 00:35:04,323
Love was a west coast band,
I still don't know who they are.

386
00:35:04,402 --> 00:35:09,305
I don't care,
I'm not interested in music.

387
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,332
But Syd was, he was interested
in what was happening.

388
00:35:13,377 --> 00:35:16,346
He was a great scholar, I believe,

389
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:17,347
of rock and roll.

390
00:35:18,316 --> 00:35:23,276
In the summer of 1964, Syd Barrett
joined the other members in London.

391
00:35:23,387 --> 00:35:32,318
When he arrived, he moved into a room
at Mike Leonard's house, which we shared

392
00:35:32,363 --> 00:35:39,292
with Nick and Rick, and went to Camberwell to paint
by any means possible.

393
00:35:39,337 --> 00:35:42,306
I think the first impression was of
who was a very nice guy.

394
00:35:43,407 --> 00:35:48,310
Magnificent, charismatic,
fun, creative.

395
00:35:48,346 --> 00:35:58,347
He took charge of all the creative work.
He composed the songs, recorded the guitar.

396
00:36:00,324 --> 00:36:07,355
He was easy to work with, he never existed
the feeling that Syd was leading the band.

397
00:36:08,366 --> 00:36:15,295
He provided the songs and we played
what we thought was right for the wrists.

398
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:22,370
Syd was the creative heart, Rick was
who helped him articulate the music,

399
00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:25,315
and Roger and Nick...

400
00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:27,374
they had fun.

401
00:36:28,352 --> 00:36:31,344
I mean, they were in a band
and did what they had to do,

402
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:38,295
They were there and helped
creating the rhythm,

403
00:36:38,362 --> 00:36:42,298
Which probably had to do with
with exploring limitations.

404
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:49,329
The development of the band were things
that happened at the right time.

405
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,376
The first was that we had found
managers in Peter Jenner and Andrew King,

406
00:36:54,412 --> 00:36:59,372
That gave us the opportunity to focus
more seriously in what we were doing.

407
00:37:00,351 --> 00:37:07,348
The more Syd wrote, the more we developed
this idea. We started to extend the pieces.

408
00:37:13,397 --> 00:37:20,360
Definitely became part of
the entire set has the lights...

409
00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:25,341
and a different version
of a rock concert.

410
00:37:26,344 --> 00:37:31,304
It wasn't for dancing and it wasn't
a concert. It was a mixed thing.

411
00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:35,385
Then, in October 1966,

412
00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:43,383
The International Times was launched, which was
created by John Hopkins and Barry Miles,

413
00:37:45,429 --> 00:37:51,368
Who was involved in another institution
important with the underground, which was Indica.

414
00:37:54,372 --> 00:38:04,338
Diario and Indica were related
and the ideas were almost the same.

415
00:38:07,418 --> 00:38:09,409
There was a bookstore and a gallery
of Indica.

416
00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:15,381
John Dumbar was more involved with the
gallery and Barry Miles with the bookshop.

417
00:38:16,394 --> 00:38:22,355
The Indica was run by a company
called M.A.D., Miles, Asher and Dumbar Ltd.

418
00:38:22,433 --> 00:38:23,365
I was Miles...

419
00:38:24,435 --> 00:38:30,374
Peter Asher, from Peter and Gordon,
the rock duo.

420
00:38:31,409 --> 00:38:36,403
And Dumbar, it was John Dumbar, who
was married to Marie Ann Faithful.

421
00:38:38,449 --> 00:38:41,441
She was our critic and model.

422
00:38:43,454 --> 00:38:51,225
The bookstore is in the center, it is the point of
collection and provision of information.

423
00:38:51,395 --> 00:38:53,226
It is the communication center.

424
00:38:54,398 --> 00:38:59,358
It was to combine bookstore activities in
which he was involved, poetry,

425
00:38:59,437 --> 00:39:03,339
small and obscure magazines
literary and things like that,

426
00:39:03,441 --> 00:39:04,408
with avant-garde art.

427
00:39:05,409 --> 00:39:06,376
The whole system is here.

428
00:39:07,378 --> 00:39:11,337
We have our editors, filmmakers,
our own theaters and clubs.

429
00:39:11,449 --> 00:39:13,383
It is a complete society.

430
00:39:13,451 --> 00:39:18,388
The Indica was like a paradise where we found
things that didn't exist anywhere else.

431
00:39:20,424 --> 00:39:25,452
In the beginning, Indica sold records, albums
of the ESP seal impossible to obtain,

432
00:39:26,430 --> 00:39:31,424
albums by the Fugs, by Albert Ayler
and avant-garde jazz;

433
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:40,400
And also New York publications, from the East
Village. Unpublished esoteric books.

434
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:50,412
The most important thing is that in the basement
The International Times began operating.

435
00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:15,369
The reason for the International Times was the
void of information from the mass media.

436
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,382
There were a lot of things happening that they didn't cover.

437
00:40:19,450 --> 00:40:25,389
What we have seen since reading
of poetry at the Albert Hall in 1965,

438
00:40:26,457 --> 00:40:27,446
And its subsequent events,

439
00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:33,420
There seemed to be a lot of people who had no idea
of the existence of these events.

440
00:40:35,399 --> 00:40:37,390
I see on a level of
politics and information.

441
00:40:42,473 --> 00:40:50,403
The International Times is a means of communication
of the alternative scene.

442
00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:54,451
We do not own a radio or a channel
TV; we are just a magazine.

443
00:40:57,488 --> 00:41:05,418
Using alternative publications from the
Germany and other countries, we founded IT,

444
00:41:05,429 --> 00:41:12,358
our own cultural magazine, to cover
Areas that the British press did not cover.

445
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:17,498
And of course, we cover the rock scene
that no one took very seriously.

446
00:41:17,508 --> 00:41:23,469
I interviewed Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger
as they had never interviewed before;

447
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:30,477
Reproduce your answers verbatim,
without diluting or lightening them,

448
00:41:31,422 --> 00:41:33,447
And without including editorial comments
that could change their statements.

449
00:41:34,492 --> 00:41:38,451
And so this entire IT group,
of Indica and the whole scene,

450
00:41:39,463 --> 00:41:43,422
what we try to do is try
see where we are now.

451
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:52,409
All the literature was raw, like William's
Burroughs, Ferlinghetti and those kinds of people.

452
00:41:53,444 --> 00:41:54,433
Soon there was information about drugs,

453
00:41:55,446 --> 00:41:58,472
their price on the streets, the quantity
and quality.

454
00:41:59,483 --> 00:42:06,412
They were talking about new things. Were
Talking about things we didn't know yet
a lot about it.

455
00:42:08,425 --> 00:42:15,422
So they try to reduce the 'weird' clichés,
'psychedelic' and that sort of thing.

456
00:42:16,433 --> 00:42:19,425
But in reality that's what's happening
and they try to look at it.

457
00:42:19,503 --> 00:42:22,472
For me it was a very
important in the summer of 1966,

458
00:42:23,474 --> 00:42:32,473
When the International Times began to
mention us again, because for sure
the press had been told, the press published,

459
00:42:33,484 --> 00:42:39,445
I saw Pink Floyd playing for the first time
at Marque� on Sundays.

460
00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:45,451
But his first major exhibition was
at the launch party of
International Times at the Round House,

461
00:42:46,463 --> 00:42:49,489
It was the first time that Round House
It was used for a show.

462
00:42:50,501 --> 00:42:53,470
I entered through a small and sad door,

463
00:42:54,505 --> 00:43:00,466
climbed some inaccessible steps
who were on one side,

464
00:43:00,511 --> 00:43:03,446
and in fact it was a dirty hole.

465
00:43:07,451 --> 00:43:10,443
The Round House was... shit.

466
00:43:12,456 --> 00:43:13,423
A rubbish.

467
00:43:13,524 --> 00:43:14,491
It was a landfill.

468
00:43:14,525 --> 00:43:15,457
It was very, very cold.

469
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:17,427
It was very, very dirty.

470
00:43:18,462 --> 00:43:25,459
I remember there was no electricity in the building. A
electricity was brought from somewhere else with a
13 amp extension.

471
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:31,430
So when the lights came up,
some projectors and the band playing,

472
00:43:31,508 --> 00:43:34,477
the lights lowered your tension.
The electricity goes down.

473
00:43:34,478 --> 00:43:37,504
The electricity was cut off,
the motorcyclists didn't leave.

474
00:43:38,482 --> 00:43:39,471
It was chaotic.

475
00:43:40,451 --> 00:43:43,443
But in a way, it was a
kind of large-scale event.

476
00:43:44,455 --> 00:43:49,449
We tried to subsidize the newspaper with the party. Many
Things went wrong, but many went right.

477
00:43:49,526 --> 00:43:52,461
The essence of the event was not knowing what
what was going to happen next.

478
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:58,467
Despite our planning efforts,
That's how the night ended up being.

479
00:43:58,502 --> 00:44:00,470
It was the first time they played
to a large audience,

480
00:44:01,538 --> 00:44:06,441
and soon after they began to
play at the UFO Club.

481
00:44:06,543 --> 00:44:10,309
IT was launched in October 1966 and
The UFO Club started in December of the same year.

482
00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:12,475
IT was launched in October 1966 and
The UFO Club started in December of the same year.

483
00:44:22,259 --> 00:44:24,454
The UFO was like... it was something like...

484
00:44:25,529 --> 00:44:27,497
And then it ended.

485
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:31,491
It simply became something that
I did it one Friday night.

486
00:44:34,471 --> 00:44:38,430
Just people arriving,
reading poetry in a corner.

487
00:44:39,243 --> 00:44:42,474
A trip, to dance
and chew the psychedelic fat.

488
00:44:42,513 --> 00:44:46,449
"Oh Nigel, the boat is rocking."
I didn't know what they were referring to.

489
00:44:46,517 --> 00:44:50,476
It's Saturday night at UFO,
This is where they really are.

490
00:44:59,530 --> 00:45:06,459
Hoppy focused all his energy on
International Times and the London Free School,

491
00:45:07,471 --> 00:45:10,201
none of them generated money.

492
00:45:10,541 --> 00:45:13,510
We wondered what
do as much as this,

493
00:45:14,511 --> 00:45:18,470
And we decided to start an event
the other week.

494
00:45:19,483 --> 00:45:24,477
Instead of getting a place for those noblewomen
organizations, we would have a benefit for
ourselves.

495
00:45:24,521 --> 00:45:30,221
Joe found the Blarney Club on Tottenham Street
Court, which was an Irish ballroom,
in the attic.

496
00:45:30,527 --> 00:45:32,461
That's when it happened
the first UFO.

497
00:45:32,529 --> 00:45:35,464
We were between two names.
We call it...

498
00:45:36,266 --> 00:45:37,460
NightTripper...

499
00:45:39,503 --> 00:45:40,492
or UFO.

500
00:45:41,538 --> 00:45:43,472
So we put both names
on the first steering wheel.

501
00:45:51,548 --> 00:45:55,245
Basically the UFO Club
it was the center of the underground.

502
00:45:55,552 --> 00:45:58,521
It was like reading poetry again
Albert Hall, only every Friday
during the night.

503
00:45:59,523 --> 00:46:01,252
It was an attic,
with a low ceiling...

504
00:46:01,525 --> 00:46:04,221
A friend of Hoppy had a light show,

505
00:46:05,295 --> 00:46:06,489
mounted in a corner.

506
00:46:08,265 --> 00:46:13,225
It didn't matter what band was playing,
there was always a light show.

507
00:46:15,272 --> 00:46:18,264
As people moved,
their hands were projected, things like that.

508
00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:20,237
The night at the UFO,

509
00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:23,507
It was different from any other show.
that we had done before.

510
00:46:24,281 --> 00:46:27,478
One of the reasons was that
We went there to have fun.

511
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:30,487
It was a little high,
and suddenly I realized:

512
00:46:31,255 --> 00:46:33,223
"God, we have to play."

513
00:46:33,524 --> 00:46:37,483
Then we made the set and
We were there to have fun.

514
00:46:38,529 --> 00:46:42,488
It wasn't like doing a show, as it was part of
of the night. It was a very different experience.

515
00:46:43,534 --> 00:46:47,493
Yoko Ono came and gave us
events of different types,

516
00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:52,270
we had avant-garde jazz groups,
oriental music...

517
00:46:53,277 --> 00:46:58,237
We didn't leave until the sun came up,
It was like being a vampire.

518
00:46:59,283 --> 00:47:01,251
The first thing we see
It was the light of the day...

519
00:47:02,286 --> 00:47:07,246
You had an hour to get home
before the community began the day,

520
00:47:08,258 --> 00:47:10,226
and it was quite difficult to be in
Charing Cross station...

521
00:47:10,527 --> 00:47:15,260
surrounded by people in top hats,
when I was still
coming off an acid trip.

522
00:47:15,299 --> 00:47:18,496
Basically it started at 10:30pm and lasted
all night until the subway
started working.

523
00:47:19,503 --> 00:47:23,269
And once the sun was high in the sky
and the subway was running, we closed ourselves off from the world
and we went home.

524
00:47:24,241 --> 00:47:25,265
UFO was very elitist.

525
00:47:26,276 --> 00:47:30,508
The psychedelic subject was not
reached the general public.

526
00:47:30,547 --> 00:47:33,243
It was a crowd of strangers...

527
00:47:34,251 --> 00:47:40,281
who were scared that there were so many
others, and everyone was happy to see
everyone else.

528
00:47:41,258 --> 00:47:50,223
In the same program there could be Floyd, or
Could there be someone like me
doing poetry and jazz.

529
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:53,269
Pink Floyd was called an orchestra
homemade from the underground.

530
00:47:54,271 --> 00:47:59,504
On Friday nights, they and other groups
touched the UFO -Unidentified Flying Object-

531
00:48:00,277 --> 00:48:06,238
a nighttime environment with films, projections
and music, which made the club underground
a great entertainment environment.

532
00:48:07,251 --> 00:48:11,517
There was the light show that was created
by Mark Boil. It was very, very good.

533
00:48:12,256 --> 00:48:15,248
A friend of mine, Joe Gannon, was one of the
pioneers in light shows.

534
00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:19,286
He experienced
all mixes...

535
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:24,257
oils, watercolors, dyes,
paints and etc.

536
00:48:25,269 --> 00:48:29,228
He applied heat to them and
They started moving everywhere.

537
00:48:29,339 --> 00:48:32,240
I have to say they were
incredible in the environment.

538
00:48:33,243 --> 00:48:35,302
It was something fantastic the way
These things worked:

539
00:48:36,313 --> 00:48:39,510
Slides were placed between
two double glass panes

540
00:48:40,317 --> 00:48:44,219
And then heat them up
with a lighter.

541
00:48:45,289 --> 00:48:47,280
Glass and lighter, it wasn't a
very good combination...

542
00:48:48,325 --> 00:48:53,285
Every now and then a scream was heard coming
from the light tower...

543
00:48:54,331 --> 00:48:57,232
These things were projected onto Pink Floyd,

544
00:48:57,301 --> 00:48:59,292
so much so that sometimes
the band even disappeared.

545
00:49:00,304 --> 00:49:02,204
The band...

546
00:49:03,340 --> 00:49:08,300
virtually disappeared
in a light show.

547
00:49:09,313 --> 00:49:13,272
Pink Floyd was not a band
that showed the face.

548
00:49:14,284 --> 00:49:17,253
They were anonymous...

549
00:49:18,288 --> 00:49:19,255
sound creators.

550
00:49:19,323 --> 00:49:27,253
They played the classic Blues repertoire of that time,
songs like �Dusting my Blues�. 'Oh, by God, another
Dusting my Blues!'

551
00:49:27,331 --> 00:49:33,292
It seemed like there were only 30 songs
and everyone played these 30 songs.

552
00:49:35,272 --> 00:49:37,297
Instead of having
guitars wailing,

553
00:49:38,308 --> 00:49:41,334
Floyd had a very rare sound.

554
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,280
They played the songs in 5 or 7
minutes instead of 3.

555
00:49:57,260 --> 00:50:04,257
They played... the music lasted a minute or two
that soon turned
minutes of improvisation.

556
00:50:05,302 --> 00:50:09,238
And that's what was interesting, that the
he did the only thing... the improvisations.

557
00:50:09,373 --> 00:50:13,309
I believe that the memory of Interstellar Overdrive
it was Syd's riff,

558
00:50:15,379 --> 00:50:17,313
It was very simple but...

559
00:50:19,282 --> 00:50:28,281
It's actually simpler than a 12 scale
because it's basically a chromatic riff.

560
00:50:38,335 --> 00:50:44,296
Do this twice and it doesn't change
wake up for about ten minutes. What does it do?
you want during those 10 minutes.

561
00:50:45,342 --> 00:50:53,340
It is a kind of free form on a
Practically single minor chord of some ten,
fifteen minutes, or however long you want.

562
00:50:53,383 --> 00:50:56,250
And then you think: are we finished?

563
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,309
Alright, let's go again.

564
00:50:58,355 --> 00:51:01,290
Then play the riff
two more times and it's over.

565
00:51:17,374 --> 00:51:26,305
This reduces the shape
from music to the simplest possible.

566
00:51:28,318 --> 00:51:34,314
We didn't stay there long, but
during the UFO era,

567
00:51:34,391 --> 00:51:39,328
That was basically it, playing
a minor chord for a long time.

568
00:51:40,363 --> 00:51:45,323
Syd's guitar playing technique is not
was so adopted from jazz, but from AMM,

569
00:51:46,403 --> 00:51:51,340
and his guitarist Keith Row, who previously
had been in Mike Westbook's band.

570
00:51:52,342 --> 00:51:57,336
He was the one who started to slide things
by the neck of the electric guitar.

571
00:51:58,315 --> 00:52:03,343
The AMM band was very free,
They improvised a lot.

572
00:52:04,321 --> 00:52:10,317
And Syd found herself in the middle of it and started using
these techniques, sliding, and even
the detuning.

573
00:52:11,361 --> 00:52:23,296
The final epoch of his mental breakdown would rise
to the stage and would detune his strings until
they completely burst and I couldn't play anymore.

574
00:52:24,374 --> 00:52:26,342
I would shake them off and remain
looking straight at the audience.

575
00:52:26,376 --> 00:52:35,307
Syd Barrett was incredible. I refer to
composers and things like that,
Syd Barrett was fantastic,

576
00:52:35,385 --> 00:52:44,316
He loved everything he did. He was magical, except
when he was completely out of his mind.

577
00:52:45,395 --> 00:52:47,363
He was a true spirit.

578
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,392
Syd was a stranger
mix of two things.

579
00:52:55,372 --> 00:52:58,364
He was a musician from
avant-garde improvisation,

580
00:52:59,242 --> 00:53:04,509
and on the other hand, he also felt attracted to
God's idea of 60s rock and roll,

581
00:53:05,448 --> 00:53:15,346
With tight velvet pants and shirts
with frills, and have groupies, which without a doubt
some he achieved.

582
00:53:15,392 --> 00:53:24,391
For me, Syd's songs were incredible, very
originals. Very English, much more than the blues.

583
00:53:24,401 --> 00:53:32,365
Syd's writing was influenced
both by Edward Lear and by the blues.

584
00:53:32,442 --> 00:53:39,348
The British tradition of Louis Cowell and Lear
were present in several of his writings,

585
00:53:39,416 --> 00:53:43,352
with an almost childish view of the world.

586
00:53:43,386 --> 00:53:45,354
It was just Syd who...

587
00:53:45,422 --> 00:53:49,381
I had the same sensitivity
than the rest of the underground.

588
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,386
I think the other band members
did not share these particular values.

589
00:53:54,397 --> 00:53:57,366
They were more middle class.

590
00:53:57,467 --> 00:54:02,404
For a while that was what
we project onto them. That's what they were,
the house band.

591
00:54:03,373 --> 00:54:08,333
Yes, we were the house band because we had
some businessmen who
promoted.

592
00:54:08,511 --> 00:54:14,450
Peter and Andrew Blackhill
with Joe Boyd.

593
00:54:15,318 --> 00:54:20,255
We had the best of the underground
from London promoting us.

594
00:54:20,423 --> 00:54:29,422
We were in the UFO, it was
the launch of IT. We were there available
and being pushed in that direction.

595
00:54:30,467 --> 00:54:33,436
I don't have any
souvenir of the underground.

596
00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:36,405
When we talk about this, I
I don't understand what they refer to.

597
00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:40,509
From that time I remember people saying
from the London Free School,

598
00:54:41,511 --> 00:54:45,470
or London Free... I've never seen it
evidence of no school...

599
00:54:47,517 --> 00:54:53,513
There were some pamphlets about drug use,
I believe Hoppy was arrested for that.

600
00:54:54,524 --> 00:55:01,453
But I don't remember anything really revolutionary
in no sense.

601
00:55:02,465 --> 00:55:03,454
I think...

602
00:55:04,534 --> 00:55:08,436
It's not to discredit anyone,
But I didn't see anything.

603
00:55:08,538 --> 00:55:10,472
I didn't see anything happen...

604
00:55:11,508 --> 00:55:16,502
Maybe because I was very busy,
equal to the rest of the group,

605
00:55:17,514 --> 00:55:26,479
jumping from here to there with all the privileges...
accessorizing my clothes, etc.

606
00:55:27,490 --> 00:55:32,518
Or looking at the window of the "Granny Takes" boutique
A Trip", pretending that we had money to
buy those horrible sequin clothes.

607
00:55:33,496 --> 00:55:36,488
I don't really know if we were
"The Underground's resident band".

608
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:41,459
Maybe we would, but, as I said before, we never
I really knew what the Underground was.

609
00:55:45,542 --> 00:55:47,510
With the success in UFO,

610
00:55:48,478 --> 00:55:51,447
the next logical step towards
Floyd was to produce a single.

611
00:55:53,249 --> 00:55:58,516
The first contact we had was obviously
with Joe because we knew him and he was part of the group.

612
00:55:59,489 --> 00:56:05,519
With the help of Van Morrison we recorded the
first single, probably at the end of 1966.

613
00:56:06,463 --> 00:56:07,487
And it was Arnold Layne.

614
00:56:19,242 --> 00:56:23,508
Joe definitely saw the potential. I think
he was introduced to us through Peter and Andrew.

615
00:56:24,514 --> 00:56:28,473
There was a good connection and we recorded
at Sound Techniques, in Chelsea.

616
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:31,510
It was a pretty simple experience.

617
00:56:33,523 --> 00:56:39,462
And EMI was the one who launched it, licensed it and bought the
recording to Morrison. They released the first single.

618
00:56:40,497 --> 00:56:43,466
I produce Arnold Layne, who
was the first single.

619
00:56:44,501 --> 00:56:48,460
And ended up being censored by
BBC for being inappropriate.

620
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,505
But it was a success. It wasn't a
great success, but entered the Top 20

621
00:56:55,478 --> 00:56:56,445
and put us on the map.

622
00:56:56,546 --> 00:56:59,515
When recording was banned
we were surprised,

623
00:57:02,252 --> 00:57:04,482
We were really stunned, thinking,

624
00:57:05,488 --> 00:57:11,484
"Oh yes, I suppose it was because... there is a way
a little strange to interpret the song".

625
00:57:13,263 --> 00:57:16,528
When "Arnold Layne" came out,
had a certain impact.

626
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:23,461
And I think a large part of it was the passage
instrumental of "Candy And A Currant Bun" that
caught attention because it was different from the rest.

627
00:57:24,507 --> 00:57:30,468
Because "Arnold Layne" was something that... I don't know, maybe
The Who might be able to do it, or the Kinks.

628
00:57:31,247 --> 00:57:33,442
But they (Pink Floyd) had
taken a step further.

629
00:57:33,550 --> 00:57:36,485
There were instrumental passages in the songs that were not
had occurred to no one before.

630
00:57:38,521 --> 00:57:44,255
On March 9, 1967, the IT workshops were
interrupted due to an obscenity charge,

631
00:57:45,261 --> 00:57:48,230
leaving IT staff with
urgency in raising funds.

632
00:57:49,499 --> 00:57:57,463
The way society works is to pursue
and try to tarnish what is considered
dangerous by those in power.

633
00:57:58,541 --> 00:58:09,247
And when something like the press
underground begins to grow and expand,
something that undoubtedly brings threats.

634
00:58:16,259 --> 00:58:22,220
IT disassembly was
basically under the pretext
of obscenity.

635
00:58:22,532 --> 00:58:26,491
The police arrived at Indica one day with
an order and they took everything.

636
00:58:29,272 --> 00:58:33,265
It was a classic
police intimidation,

637
00:58:33,543 --> 00:58:35,534
probably closed
other newspapers,

638
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:43,276
But ours wasn't just anyone. Not the
we did it out of greed, no one was
earning money.

639
00:58:46,256 --> 00:58:51,489
We, the editorial team, decided that
We should... it was like betting double or folding.

640
00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:56,488
We would have a huge event
to raise funds.

641
00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:04,234
I remember saying to Hoppy:

642
00:59:05,275 --> 00:59:08,267
"You have to be careful because you could end up
losing money instead of earning it."

643
00:59:08,311 --> 00:59:09,505
I was a little skeptical.

644
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:16,241
And after becoming frustrated with the idea of a
Big court case and lots of illegal guarantees,

645
00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:23,288
Hoppy retired from the newspaper for a while and
dedicated his full time to organizing the
Technicolor Dream.

646
00:59:25,261 --> 00:59:34,260
In the past, when he was a Jazz photographer,
Attended all kinds of parties
at Alexandra Palace.

647
00:59:35,305 --> 00:59:41,266
So he mixed everything together to create,
basically an extended version
from the UFO Club.

648
00:59:42,245 --> 00:59:49,242
Technicolor Dream was a celebration of
majority of the post-war generation.

649
01:00:23,286 --> 01:00:28,314
The Technicolor Dream was a clear
manifestation that he was different.

650
01:00:29,292 --> 01:00:33,251
And many people stood for hours and
hours in a kind of trance, listening...

651
01:00:34,263 --> 01:00:36,254
There were all kinds of things
happening at that time.

652
01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:38,426
There were people doing shows
of lights in small clubs.

653
01:00:38,501 --> 01:00:40,264
I remember thinking...

654
01:00:41,304 --> 01:00:44,296
"Now everything is happening.
This is really something big"

655
01:00:45,274 --> 01:00:50,234
Now it was different. It had changed,
and it would never be the same again.

656
01:00:59,322 --> 01:01:05,227
I remember we took Northern from
metro, to Wood Green station.

657
01:01:05,328 --> 01:01:13,235
We left the station and climbed the hill to the
Alexandra Palace and I remember well the smell of incense,

658
01:01:13,336 --> 01:01:18,273
because we took some incense,
bells and all kinds of mind-blowing costumes.

659
01:01:19,275 --> 01:01:23,302
Loose dresses, tunics and some of the
first kaftans, those embroidered Afghan bags.

660
01:01:24,313 --> 01:01:30,252
It was an incredible carnival of people dressed
with delirious and exotic clothes.

661
01:01:31,254 --> 01:01:32,312
I felt at home.

662
01:01:32,422 --> 01:01:34,390
That's what I was looking for,
even when I didn't know.

663
01:01:42,331 --> 01:01:46,290
I arrived very early, and I remember
that as soon as the doors opened,

664
01:01:47,303 --> 01:01:54,232
there was a man called Norman Pinkleton who
sat at the door and stopped everyone
who entered,

665
01:01:54,343 --> 01:01:56,277
started talking to them
and to give them your address.

666
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:02,240
In the following months there were around 50 people
visiting him, since they had his address.

667
01:02:03,319 --> 01:02:07,255
They were complete strangers,
They were simply going to spend time with him.

668
01:02:07,323 --> 01:02:10,292
When I arrived at the place...

669
01:02:11,327 --> 01:02:14,296
I started walking down the stairs
of this magnificent building,

670
01:02:14,363 --> 01:02:21,292
and it was like entering a temple with a
great gale spotted in the background,

671
01:02:22,305 --> 01:02:27,333
It's a big organ and all
those people walking around dressed...

672
01:02:29,312 --> 01:02:30,301
in an incredible way.

673
01:02:30,313 --> 01:02:36,274
I remember the first person I saw
when he arrived it was a man called Nigel Weymouth

674
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:46,285
Who was part of Hapshash and The Colored
Coat, who ran Granny Takes a Trip, a
fashion at World's End,

675
01:02:46,362 --> 01:02:53,291
With whom he already had a friendship.
Suddenly I realized that
That was my home that night.

676
01:02:53,369 --> 01:02:57,328
What would be the purpose for you?
tonight, from Technicolor Dream?

677
01:02:59,308 --> 01:03:05,269
Well, I think it's a new period.
We are beginning a new era.

678
01:03:09,385 --> 01:03:14,288
I think I'm really crazy. Everyone is crazy!
It's crazy. What do they gain from this?

679
01:03:14,323 --> 01:03:20,319
All these baggy, long dresses. Half of the people
is walking this way...

680
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:33,265
There were two stages, one at each point, one
right under where the organ was, and the
another on the other side.

681
01:03:33,376 --> 01:03:36,368
All the people were floating around,
sitting on the floor, a lot of things were
happening.

682
01:03:36,412 --> 01:03:39,381
41 bands offered their services.

683
01:03:40,349 --> 01:03:45,343
Not all of them were bands. Some were actors
and dance groups, etc.

684
01:03:47,323 --> 01:03:54,320
But it was enough to get all this together
people, that there were two bands simultaneously,
one in each corner of Alexandra Palace.

685
01:03:54,397 --> 01:03:58,333
The sound was amazing, it bounced around everyone
to the sides, you couldn't hear anything.

686
01:03:59,335 --> 01:04:03,294
There were two bands playing at the same time,
and so both sounds mixed.

687
01:04:03,306 --> 01:04:11,338
There was no break of any kind, nor were there
programmed repertoires. We improvised.

688
01:04:12,381 --> 01:04:18,377
John Dumbar had forgotten about the event and
went out to take acid with John Lennon at
Weybridge.

689
01:04:20,389 --> 01:04:27,295
The event was so massive that it had repercussions on the
BBC news on TV, resulting in them having

690
01:04:27,396 --> 01:04:31,355
the organizers of the first great
psychedelic event in the country,

691
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:37,305
chose the beginning of the day before the beginning of the month of May
for his all-night ritual in his
temple, Alexandra Palace.

692
01:04:37,340 --> 01:04:43,336
They offered free entry to the queen and the first
minister and charged a pound
of the other 7,000 people.

693
01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:48,316
"Ah, you know," they suddenly realized what
they were losing, they called the driver

694
01:04:48,384 --> 01:04:59,352
and were expelled in splendor from the Alexandra
Palace. It is possible to see from the TV images
which were completely out of place.

695
01:05:05,368 --> 01:05:07,393
All the other things I remember
They were very good.

696
01:05:09,338 --> 01:05:12,307
I spent a lot of time with my
bride Suzy Creamcheese.

697
01:05:12,375 --> 01:05:13,364
My name is Suzy Creamcheese.

698
01:05:14,377 --> 01:05:16,311
What do you do?

699
01:05:18,381 --> 01:05:29,349
Well, sometimes I dance to be able to live. Sometimes I operate
the controls. And sometimes I work with sick children.
Or simply alive.

700
01:05:31,427 --> 01:05:35,363
I remember Lennon came in as
many other people.

701
01:05:36,399 --> 01:05:37,366
It was a mess.

702
01:05:38,434 --> 01:05:41,403
Smaller events also took place. By
For example, Yoko Ono held an event where

703
01:05:43,339 --> 01:05:47,332
a young woman's clothes were cut off
in several pieces
by people with scissors.

704
01:05:48,377 --> 01:05:51,346
Violation elements
and feminism.

705
01:05:51,414 --> 01:05:54,383
The scissors
were amplified,

706
01:05:56,352 --> 01:05:58,377
so they had a good sound.

707
01:05:59,388 --> 01:06:05,349
Whether John Lennon saw this, I don't know, but I don't think he
they spoke, even though they had already seen each other
before.

708
01:06:05,428 --> 01:06:11,367
It was during the time when they were repairing the
church body, which belonged to Ally Pally
(Alexandra Palace).

709
01:06:12,401 --> 01:06:17,361
There was scaffolding around the organ
that reached the ceiling.

710
01:06:18,407 --> 01:06:23,367
As soon as the event started,
people started climbing the scaffolding.

711
01:06:28,384 --> 01:06:32,343
Around midnight I saw the
Swinging scaffolding,

712
01:06:33,389 --> 01:06:35,357
Obviously it wasn't very safe.

713
01:06:35,424 --> 01:06:41,420
It was very amateurish, and that's what
It made everything so beautiful and charming.

714
01:06:42,398 --> 01:06:45,367
Some people completely out
just climbing the scaffolding.

715
01:06:45,401 --> 01:06:50,395
It's incredible that no one fell or
broken something.

716
01:06:50,406 --> 01:06:52,397
There was so much
happening,

717
01:06:53,409 --> 01:07:00,338
We were all friends and we stayed there
looking at the ceiling, observing things

718
01:07:00,449 --> 01:07:04,510
smoking weed, and we were actually
a part of the place's scenography.

719
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:05,350
smoking weed, and we were actually
a part of the place's scenography.

720
01:07:20,403 --> 01:07:25,363
I remember Floyd arrived and
It started playing very late.

721
01:07:26,375 --> 01:07:32,371
They started playing just when the light
of the sun began to enter the building, the sun
It was already high in the sky.

722
01:07:33,416 --> 01:07:36,385
I also remember that the
place was full of lights

723
01:07:38,387 --> 01:07:44,383
And the hall was filled with a new day,
a new dawn, a new light of day.

724
01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:46,394
At least that's what I felt.

725
01:07:52,468 --> 01:07:59,431
The most legendary part of the event was Pink
Floyd coming in like a dawn
through a rose window.

726
01:08:01,410 --> 01:08:03,378
Pete Jenner and Syd had taken acid.

727
01:08:04,413 --> 01:08:06,404
I believe Syd
played very badly that night,

728
01:08:07,416 --> 01:08:12,444
But the effect of the sun appearing, entering the
window, and reflecting on Syd's guitar

729
01:08:13,422 --> 01:08:22,330
which was silver, generated spotlights
all around, it was magical.

730
01:08:22,465 --> 01:08:25,434
The stage was very high, there was
2 or 2.5 meters high.

731
01:08:26,402 --> 01:08:32,398
So you had to look up. Behind him
there was a pink window. It was very
exciting.

732
01:08:33,509 --> 01:08:40,415
My best memory, for sure
it has to do with drugs,

733
01:08:41,283 --> 01:08:43,410
it was the growing light.

734
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:50,452
It was night and then dawn,
That's when Floyd played.

735
01:08:50,459 --> 01:08:57,422
That was crucial, literally
a very psychedelic experience.

736
01:08:57,466 --> 01:09:02,460
What they played that night was
a series of very long improvisations.

737
01:09:15,451 --> 01:09:17,385
I think...

738
01:09:17,486 --> 01:09:19,420
We played two shows that night.

739
01:09:19,455 --> 01:09:24,415
We play in Holland
and then we returned to England.

740
01:09:24,527 --> 01:09:29,396
But I could be wrong about that.
Something else could have happened.

741
01:09:29,465 --> 01:09:34,425
I don't remember how the band played, and I think
that not even they remember how
managed to play.

742
01:09:35,271 --> 01:09:41,403
It must have been very difficult. I heard it around
that Roger seemed like a nightmare and that didn't bother me
surprises.

743
01:09:42,311 --> 01:09:48,409
I remember Ally Pally. I remember there was a place
huge. I remember there were a lot of people.
And there was more than one stage.

744
01:09:48,484 --> 01:09:57,392
I remember turning the knob on something
called BFO, a frequency oscillator, which
it's actually just a tone generator.

745
01:09:57,459 --> 01:10:00,394
And he said: whoooooo...

746
01:10:01,430 --> 01:10:08,461
And then in another
direction: ooooooooooh.

747
01:10:09,471 --> 01:10:19,437
Or I could go whoo oooh whooo. It was a
extraordinary musical instrument
and primitive.

748
01:10:19,481 --> 01:10:23,440
I tend to have a childish view of things
that we were living...

749
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:30,418
Syd began to destroy herself and for us
everything started to get bigger.

750
01:10:30,492 --> 01:10:38,422
This was another type of event very different to what
we were used to... what it was like
underground.

751
01:10:39,435 --> 01:10:44,395
When I look back
I realize it wasn't so wonderful.

752
01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:54,347
I was there when it ended, when the sun was
high in the sky. It was a fantastic morning
spring, it was a wonderful day.

753
01:10:54,516 --> 01:11:00,455
I remember lying in the
lawn outside the Ally Pally,

754
01:11:00,522 --> 01:11:04,481
And see the crowd of people
going down the hill,

755
01:11:05,461 --> 01:11:11,422
and thinking that there really were a lot of people,
and also that it was taking off.

756
01:11:13,469 --> 01:11:20,500
I think it was a big success because people
who went there found themselves absorbed
with what happened,

757
01:11:20,509 --> 01:11:25,446
and they left saying it was
beautiful and should be repeated.

758
01:11:35,457 --> 01:11:44,422
After party at Alexandra Palace next
Pink Floyd's biggest step was to record their first
record, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn.

759
01:11:46,302 --> 01:11:51,330
They tried to get a contract
with Polydor.

760
01:11:51,540 --> 01:11:53,508
But before the contract
be signed...

761
01:11:55,511 --> 01:11:58,503
the agency that represented them...

762
01:11:59,548 --> 01:12:02,449
said, "No, we can get
more money with EMl".

763
01:12:02,551 --> 01:12:09,480
Then the entire agreement was undone and the band
went to EMI, and I ended up producing
just one disc

764
01:12:10,459 --> 01:12:16,455
and the rest of the LPs were produced
internally by EMI, as that is their policy.

765
01:12:17,499 --> 01:12:25,463
Peter and Andrew went to Van Morrison, and Van
Morrison became our manager and
got us all this work

766
01:12:26,508 --> 01:12:28,476
somehow got us into EMI.

767
01:12:28,544 --> 01:12:35,245
EMI had no intention of placing Joe as
producer, so we had to put it aside.

768
01:12:35,517 --> 01:12:40,216
The Piper was recorded on the famous
Abbey Road stadiums,

769
01:12:40,522 --> 01:12:42,513
with EMI producer Norman Smith.

770
01:12:43,525 --> 01:12:50,454
He had been the sound engineer for the Beatles, and
I expected to be the next George Martin
being with us.

771
01:12:51,500 --> 01:12:55,493
He had a lot of influence on much of the
recording.

772
01:12:56,405 --> 01:13:04,210
He was very surprised when he did this first
Alb�m, because of Syd's songs.

773
01:13:04,246 --> 01:13:10,207
Norman Smith said it was difficult to work with
Syd. Personally, I don't remember that.

774
01:13:11,253 --> 01:13:17,522
We made the songs in a few days, while
instead of taking months, as it ended up being
years later.

775
01:13:18,260 --> 01:13:21,525
Floyd was the first band to achieve a
contract with a major record label.

776
01:13:22,498 --> 01:13:29,461
I think Norman Smith's audacity was
Ensuring that the band would produce several songs from
three minutes for your first album,

777
01:13:29,538 --> 01:13:37,468
but we insisted that there be
a long song, like the ones they made
live.

778
01:13:37,513 --> 01:13:39,481
And that was Interstellar Overdrive.

779
01:13:39,548 --> 01:13:46,249
It is a tribute to Abbey Road and its quality of
engineering, of something that was done 40 years ago.

780
01:13:46,522 --> 01:13:53,519
It's not as boring to listen to as
those old wax cylinders.

781
01:14:14,249 --> 01:14:19,448
It's a mix of things. There are several elements
in it, which I find very interesting.

782
01:14:19,521 --> 01:14:26,450
Chapter 24 is about the I Ching, the whole subject
philosophical, religions and things like that.

783
01:14:27,262 --> 01:14:32,256
Songs like Scarecrow and Bike
They are basically English poetry...

784
01:14:33,268 --> 01:14:43,303
And then there's Interstellar Overdrive which is
a rock and roll mixed with several
invention sessions.

785
01:14:43,512 --> 01:14:48,245
And with breaks in the rhythms, which was something
unknown in rock and roll until that moment.

786
01:14:49,251 --> 01:14:57,249
The 60s, Syd's career and breakdown
Barrett from the beginning of '67 onwards, if
are inexorably connected...

787
01:14:57,292 --> 01:14:58,259
...with LSD and its effects

788
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:06,529
My personal opinion is that Syd was going to
along the path of schizophrenia, he sank.

789
01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:09,498
Anyway, it's just my personal opinion.

790
01:15:13,275 --> 01:15:19,214
My conclusion is that Syd took LSD on several
occasions and often had a bad trip.

791
01:15:19,281 --> 01:15:24,241
I heard that he consumed
lots of drugs, lots of acid.

792
01:15:25,254 --> 01:15:27,313
I think this left him with a disturbed mind.

793
01:15:27,356 --> 01:15:32,259
If you are sick and take acid,
even more so in large quantities,

794
01:15:32,528 --> 01:15:34,291
That's the worst you can do,

795
01:15:35,264 --> 01:15:41,225
because it aggravates the symptoms of any
something that's going wrong in your brain.

796
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:47,266
There was a connection with philosophy
what he was interested in
at that time.

797
01:15:48,277 --> 01:15:53,237
Both things in a sense were
a type of cocktail that didn't work out.

798
01:15:53,315 --> 01:15:57,274
But he was also experiencing
and being artistic,

799
01:15:58,253 --> 01:16:01,518
the acid opened your mind
It's new forms of expression.

800
01:16:02,291 --> 01:16:06,250
It was very difficult, because
We expected a lot from Syd.

801
01:16:07,529 --> 01:16:12,228
He was the creative leader. It was the
The only one who wrote songs.

802
01:16:13,268 --> 01:16:16,237
He was also the guitarist
main and vocalist,

803
01:16:17,239 --> 01:16:21,232
So it was a fundamental piece
of the puzzle.

804
01:16:22,277 --> 01:16:25,269
We were very aware that
things were starting to go well, however...

805
01:16:26,248 --> 01:16:29,217
I still think we denied...

806
01:16:29,318 --> 01:16:33,220
If Syd behaved in a peculiar way,

807
01:16:33,322 --> 01:16:38,282
We assumed it was because of tiredness and stress and
that we should simply take a day off and
then go back to work.

808
01:16:40,262 --> 01:16:46,258
He was a true artist and saw himself
as such, it was ambiguous regarding
from the entire pop scene.

809
01:16:46,335 --> 01:16:51,295
He decided that wasn't what he wanted
do. He didn't want to be in a band
rock and roll,

810
01:16:52,307 --> 01:16:54,332
with all commercial matters
what that implied.

811
01:16:54,343 --> 01:16:59,280
It was very experimental, I think
I had no interest in being a pop star.

812
01:17:00,248 --> 01:17:06,209
He discovered that being a star was very
disturbing, people approached
to ask you the meaning of life.

813
01:17:16,264 --> 01:17:21,258
The general consensus in England was quite
sad in the 50s and early 60s.

814
01:17:21,269 --> 01:17:26,297
It didn't have much color. It was gray and beige.
It was a very sad place.

815
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:35,239
Those who took LSD, and in smaller portions at
cannabis, realized that the world explodes
in primary colors.

816
01:17:48,330 --> 01:17:52,289
What we see in pop music,

817
01:17:53,268 --> 01:17:55,236
both in letters and in sound,

818
01:17:55,370 --> 01:18:05,268
fashion, art, poster design,
photography, and all the art that happened in
London in the mid-60s,

819
01:18:06,281 --> 01:18:13,278
was largely a product of visions
and experiences with LSD.

820
01:18:13,288 --> 01:18:20,285
Turn...to them...hug them

821
01:18:20,362 --> 01:18:31,330
The first time I took LSD was with friends,
Ted Millson and I believe also Andrew King,
who was later one of Floyd's managers.

822
01:18:39,281 --> 01:18:42,341
Talking about me, it only consumes
Acid twice in my life.

823
01:18:43,351 --> 01:18:52,521
The first time was an experience
incredible and deep. The generations
following said:

824
01:18:53,328 --> 01:18:56,297
"Oh, we consumed acid, we left
and we did this and that."

825
01:18:56,364 --> 01:19:04,328
It was different from ours,
it was completely pure,

826
01:19:05,340 --> 01:19:12,337
a drop on the tongue was enough. I wouldn't leave
several days. It was very, very strong and strange.

827
01:19:13,315 --> 01:19:17,342
The first time you take acid, if you are
well prepared for this, and I'm glad we
we were,

828
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:23,257
we don't feel afraid to be at the feet
from the doors of perception and...

829
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:33,290
had a kind of respect for what we were
doing, which wasn't just entertainment.

830
01:19:51,386 --> 01:19:56,346
I remember being in a club in Frankfurt
after taking acid at two in the morning,

831
01:19:59,361 --> 01:20:02,353
I went downstairs and washed my hands.
I went to the bathroom and washed my hands.

832
01:20:03,331 --> 01:20:06,300
And when you open the tap,
blood started to come out.

833
01:20:07,302 --> 01:20:13,298
I wash my face, and when I look at myself
In the mirror he was all bloody...
even though I knew it wasn't blood.

834
01:20:14,309 --> 01:20:18,268
It's brilliant, a wonderful experience.
You look at your hands and they are genius...

835
01:20:26,388 --> 01:20:31,325
Then I went up the stairs, sat at the bar
and sees a German, and he is naked.

836
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:39,289
Suddenly your head starts to burn and you know
which is not real, and yet it is an incredible experience.

837
01:20:39,367 --> 01:20:44,327
Because it has a kind of controller. Se
start to get scared, try to relax.

838
01:20:45,340 --> 01:20:47,331
I've never had a badtrip,
It was always fantastic.

839
01:20:54,382 --> 01:20:59,342
I feel absolutely none
I want to do it again.

840
01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:07,327
Not that it was an experience
Terrible, except...

841
01:21:07,362 --> 01:21:11,321
It's like trying to live another life.
Something I don't want to do.

842
01:21:12,334 --> 01:21:21,333
Much of what happened to Syd was after
stop playing regularly at UFO and stop
to work with them.

843
01:21:22,344 --> 01:21:29,341
One night I met him. In the west zone.
And his fiancee said he had taken acid
every day for a week.

844
01:21:30,418 --> 01:21:35,321
Clearly I was crossing the line.

845
01:21:35,390 --> 01:21:44,389
I remember a show at UFO where
Syd only played one note during the entire show.

846
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:53,330
Floyd returned to play at UFO in June, and
he just stood there on the stage,

847
01:21:53,408 --> 01:21:57,367
with your arms crossed,
Sometimes I didn't sing the songs...

848
01:21:57,412 --> 01:22:02,349
Obviously, somehow
he was profoundly changed.

849
01:22:02,417 --> 01:22:08,378
Then we started to worry because
Syd was a little strange.

850
01:22:09,391 --> 01:22:15,387
But what's the problem? Since we were
experimenting, we were psychedelic,

851
01:22:17,399 --> 01:22:24,362
expanded our horizons, expanded our
minds. We explored our heads,
we explored new territories.

852
01:22:25,340 --> 01:22:30,334
So there was a kind of ambivalence
in my mind on this subject.

853
01:22:31,379 --> 01:22:38,342
I mean that I can talk about your
behavior and all rare things.

854
01:22:38,420 --> 01:22:47,351
When we were doing Top Of The Pops, I think
that in '67, Syd got grumpy

855
01:22:48,430 --> 01:22:51,399
for having to be on TV,
and in the end he ended up leaving.

856
01:22:53,368 --> 01:22:57,395
I also remember him saying: 'John Lennon
you don't have to do this'.

857
01:22:58,373 --> 01:23:02,366
What are you talking about?
What does it have to do with us?

858
01:23:03,411 --> 01:23:06,380
That's what
we always dream.

859
01:23:08,383 --> 01:23:21,353
Soon he began to be less and less attached
our reality,
and everything slowly fell apart.

860
01:23:34,376 --> 01:23:41,373
Finally we realized that
we really faced it, when Syd
he no longer played with us.

861
01:23:41,449 --> 01:23:49,356
He no longer played in a realistic way.
Just detune the strings or
I stood still... lost...

862
01:23:50,458 --> 01:23:53,427
And finally we had to
face the situation.

863
01:23:53,428 --> 01:23:57,455
I don't think it was your choice, just
I was literally unable to play.

864
01:23:57,499 --> 01:24:04,496
Somehow he sought it,
act like a madman.
Like he did in the famous Winterland...

865
01:24:04,506 --> 01:24:13,437
which was one of our first performances
in the USA with Big Brother and Janis...

866
01:24:14,382 --> 01:24:26,317
Everyone knows this story, he
started to tune out the guitar

867
01:24:26,361 --> 01:24:31,389
from the E string to A, G, Re, B
until they fall,

868
01:24:31,533 --> 01:24:33,501
and that was all.

869
01:24:34,335 --> 01:24:36,394
He was quite Dad�,

870
01:24:37,238 --> 01:24:46,237
and really annoying since
what he did in the rest of the show wasn't so brilliant.

871
01:24:48,283 --> 01:24:52,447
Everyone blames Pink Floyd
for abandoning Syd Barret.

872
01:24:52,487 --> 01:25:00,258
But he didn't stay upright
could not stand firm.

873
01:25:01,463 --> 01:25:06,366
Used a lot of drugs,
and very quickly.

874
01:25:07,469 --> 01:25:12,372
And also had a medical condition
which I know nothing about.

875
01:25:15,310 --> 01:25:18,370
It simply got lost.
Lost control.

876
01:25:20,415 --> 01:25:24,442
He was bright, one of those stars
that explodes, like Hendrix.

877
01:25:25,487 --> 01:25:30,424
Someone who seems like they are very
Bright to be alive.

878
01:25:41,369 --> 01:25:46,329
The end of the 60s, Syd Barrett gradually
He disappeared from the music scene,

879
01:25:47,509 --> 01:25:51,468
and another iconic figure from
underground, Hoppy Hopkins,

880
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,448
also seemed to realize
that things had changed.

881
01:25:55,483 --> 01:25:57,417
When he left everything fell apart.

882
01:25:58,419 --> 01:26:05,416
It was extraordinary. When the police arrested him, it was
because it was becoming too much
influential, very powerful.

883
01:26:05,460 --> 01:26:08,429
I always thought that the
they took him to shut him up.

884
01:26:10,465 --> 01:26:12,490
He never had the
same power after that.

885
01:26:13,501 --> 01:26:20,498
He realized he had crossed the line
and I didn't want to go back to that damn place again.

886
01:26:21,509 --> 01:26:26,503
So he never went back to the underground
after serving the sentence.

887
01:26:27,515 --> 01:26:34,512
We had "Summer Of Love", we had "Sgt.
Pepper" in June. We had "Piper At The Gates Of
Dawn" in August...

888
01:26:36,257 --> 01:26:45,495
But then Brian Jones was
arrested for the second time, the death of
Brian Epstein...

889
01:26:47,402 --> 01:26:56,333
The Rolling Stones release a great album
psychedelic, and it becomes a kind of winter.

890
01:27:02,350 --> 01:27:05,342
I realized that things
were changing

891
01:27:06,354 --> 01:27:09,448
at the end of the summer of 67.

892
01:27:10,258 --> 01:27:15,389
The spirit that was there during
66 and the spring of 67

893
01:27:16,264 --> 01:27:20,462
started to corrode because
we became very
popular.

894
01:27:21,536 --> 01:27:27,497
When something gets massive, and England is
a country that can turn anything into fashion,

895
01:27:29,244 --> 01:27:32,213
and turns into a pop trend in
place of a serious movement,

896
01:27:33,514 --> 01:27:35,243
becomes inevitable.

897
01:27:35,516 --> 01:27:39,247
Honestly, at the end of
69 everyone was tired.

898
01:27:40,488 --> 01:27:44,447
No one had gotten enough sleep for years.
They had taken a lot of drugs.

899
01:27:44,525 --> 01:27:46,493
They were completely exhausted.

900
01:27:47,495 --> 01:27:52,523
I don't think there was one particular event.
In the end everyone got tired
and went to sleep.